Comments on: Marshall Goes Rugged with HDMI Conversion – by Tim Holtermann

By: Shane

Shane — Wed, 08 Aug 2012 23:20:18 +0000

Nat, I would go with the New DP-7 from SmallHD, it is very sharp and looks spectacular.

By: Nat

Nat — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 02:07:17 +0000

Hey Tim,

Nice article!. And good comments also i`ve got one question wich monitor would you recommend for Focusing Assistant, I was thinking on a Marshall Orchid, But i heard there where better options for the same price.
Thank You

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By: Kevin Schmitt

Kevin Schmitt — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:29:47 +0000

Sho1, thank you for your answer. We have been through all kinds of HDMI solutions and I can confirm that HDMI connection delay problem. I’m talking about a 4–5 second delay to video village in some situation, which is really annoying.
That delay is mainly caused by a HDMI splitter sitting right after the camera in the cable run. On 7D I don’t really need to worry about it, as it’s not switching HDMI resolution as 5D does.

By: Shane

Shane — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 21:39:02 +0000

Kevin Schmidt, yes it will work like that. Delay is not bad at all. Resolution seems great.

By: Shane

Shane — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 21:36:32 +0000

Sho1, thanks for all your great advice.

By: Sho1

Sho1 — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 14:49:51 +0000

My economical solution to all the video headache was
5D/7D to HDMI Mini- HDMI cable to Small HD DP4EVF(EVF) to HDMI-HDMI cable to TV Logic(Assistant’s Monitor) to BNC cable to Video Village(well, Blackmagic HDLink Pro taking HD-SDI Signal and then via Display Port to an affordable but reasonable monitor).

To answer Mr. Kevin Schmitt’s question(though not about Marshall Orchid), HDMI when you hit record, does have a delay… about a second or so. Seems like the more HDMI connection you have, the longer the delay becomes.

TV logic is a very good monitor… DSLR Record scale is little off, how ever. They have to do a firmware update to solve this problem, also add a peaking function… focus assist function, to most focus pullers, are not so helpful I noticed. Overall it’s made rock solid and performs well with a long battery life(4 hours or so on 1x Canon LP-E6). Small HD DP6 is more use friendly I feel, but TV Logic has HDMI-SDI loop through feature, and this has been very helpful.

Small HD DP4 is almost perfect with a good battery life(5 hours or so on 1x Canon LP-E6) … still firmware needs to keep being updated as it does freezes occasionally.

Blackmagic HDLink Pro is useful for those who use Technicolor Cinestyle LUT(which it seems to create more visible noise though you might gain little more latitude… a stop at most) as you can load LUT to it and have people at vide village watch pre-graded image instead of very flat Cinestyle image.

DLSR set up can be much pricier than many think, and many of us already have spent thousands after buying the first camera body… whatever you can come up with to make your shoot easier that your wallet allows should do(like most things in life). After all, these things don’t necessarily affect what you are shooting.

By: Kevin Schmitt

Kevin Schmitt — Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:33:48 +0000

Hi Shane, I took a look at the ORCHID’s Owner’s manual. It seems like I could use its HDMI in/out as loop-through while feeding video village at the same time over HDSDI. Am I right?

How does it behave with 5D’s resolution switching on start/stop of recording? Big delay?

By: Shane

Shane — Tue, 09 Aug 2011 00:45:22 +0000

bassem maher, yes, you would just have to have a HDMI Splitter if you don’t have a loop thru.

By: bassem maher

bassem maher — Mon, 08 Aug 2011 17:41:16 +0000

do i have to use this kind of marshall mointor that have have HDMI loop , can i use another model that have 1 hdmi port

By: Tim

Tim — Sun, 07 Aug 2011 17:51:20 +0000

Hi Chris, Depending on the EVF you are using, you can actually use the HDMI loop through to get to the Orchid. Currently our EVF does offer this feature, so we usually go into the EVF, then loop through to the Orchid or secondary on board monitor if needed.

By: Chris McAlister

Chris McAlister — Sun, 07 Aug 2011 02:21:33 +0000

If this was ever necessary, I would assume the only solution is an HDMI splitter.. One HDMI input to the EVF, and the other to the Orchid.

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By: Shane

Shane — Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:20:26 +0000

Ramy, copy that. We use TV logic that do the same as well, but I feel for people systems that have already purchased on-board monitors and they want to keep as current, this is a cheap rugged solution.

By: Shane

Shane — Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:18:07 +0000

Alex, Running around corners, handshaking. At the pace that I work at it, the Cube never seems to keep up. I love the idea of it and I could have never pulled of the Prudential commercial without it, but I would rather be wired or go standard def.

By: Ramy

Ramy — Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:07:49 +0000

I have a different solution from a ruige monitor ,not advertising that has both an HDMI Splitter and HDMI to HDSDI convertor, both of them work at the same time. I use the HDMI splitter for the camera Man and the Focus Puller and the HDSDI for the Director/Client.

By: Alex

Alex — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:36:31 +0000

My scenario with Teradek is this: 7D+ HDMI Splitter, 1st split goes to an external monitor (SmallHD in my case) for focus puller and cameraman, 2nd is for Teradek (for director/client/agency).
I agree that it’s not very user friendly if you are not a system admin and do not know anything about wifi configurations.
Shane, when you said that it works 30-40% what where the issues?

By: Eric Diosay

Eric Diosay — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:54:19 +0000

Teradek’s Cube does have latency issues. They say 1/8- to 1/2-second. It’s premise is cool, though.

Thanks for the heads-up on Marshall’s solution. It’s the last bit that is missing from my kit.

By: Shane

Shane — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:32:04 +0000

Alex, Hi Alex, not very happy with Teradex cube. Delay is crippling for focus. Works 30-40% of the time. Great if you are in a studio. Not user friendly at all on how I roll out. But thanks for the input.