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	<title>Comments on: Chaos in Harmony by Kevin Anderson, Rental Manager at Hurlbut Visuals</title>
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		<title>By: Cherryl Tschache</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cherryl Tschache</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!

Schon kurz nachdem die Kripo die Seite von Kino.to abgeschaltet hatte, meldeten sich angebliche Insider! Sie sprachen davon, dass längst nicht alle Mitarbeiter der Filmbörse festgenommen wurden, man wieder online gehen werde.

 Doch jetzt zu kinoX.to: Angeblich soll die Datenbank von der Urspruchsseite kopiert worden sein und jetzt soll als Klonseite online gestellt worden sein. Ob diese Angabe stimmt, kann zum jetzigen Zeitpunkt nicht nachgeprüft werden, denn kinoX.to ist aufgrund der Serverüberlastung nicht zu erreichen.

Wie auf dem Partnerportal von video2k.tv seit heute zu lesen ist, soll diese Seite der Klon sein und man solle keiner anderen Seite trauen. Anscheinend wird es hier einen Machtkampft der großen Nummer geben und alle wollen die Lorbeeren ernten. Aber es sieht so aus, dass kinoX.to wirklich der offiziell in die Fussstapfen tritt. Hier wird weiter davon berichtet.

...macht weiter so!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!</p>
<p>Schon kurz nachdem die Kripo die Seite von Kino.to abgeschaltet hatte, meldeten sich angebliche Insider! Sie sprachen davon, dass längst nicht alle Mitarbeiter der Filmbörse festgenommen wurden, man wieder online gehen werde.</p>
<p> Doch jetzt zu kinoX.to: Angeblich soll die Datenbank von der Urspruchsseite kopiert worden sein und jetzt soll als Klonseite online gestellt worden sein. Ob diese Angabe stimmt, kann zum jetzigen Zeitpunkt nicht nachgeprüft werden, denn kinoX.to ist aufgrund der Serverüberlastung nicht zu erreichen.</p>
<p>Wie auf dem Partnerportal von video2k.tv seit heute zu lesen ist, soll diese Seite der Klon sein und man solle keiner anderen Seite trauen. Anscheinend wird es hier einen Machtkampft der großen Nummer geben und alle wollen die Lorbeeren ernten. Aber es sieht so aus, dass kinoX.to wirklich der offiziell in die Fussstapfen tritt. Hier wird weiter davon berichtet.</p>
<p>&#8230;macht weiter so!</p>
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		<title>By: John Mahoney</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Mahoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 23:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,
I am a long time admirer of Hurlbut visuals. In fact I used to have an office in a place where Shane once worked in Boston. I think he proposed marriage while wearing a knights outfit?
Any way, I have been wondering about a piece of gear I keep seeing in photos on the site. Can you explain the device that looks like a small pair of binoculars sitting on top of the 5D body. You can clearly see it in the photo on top page of the blog.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,<br />
I am a long time admirer of Hurlbut visuals. In fact I used to have an office in a place where Shane once worked in Boston. I think he proposed marriage while wearing a knights outfit?<br />
Any way, I have been wondering about a piece of gear I keep seeing in photos on the site. Can you explain the device that looks like a small pair of binoculars sitting on top of the 5D body. You can clearly see it in the photo on top page of the blog.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin -

In the picture of the full rig mounted on sticks, where did you get the battery plate that allows the AB battery to mount directly to the Redrock microbalance plate?  I haven&#039;t found such a plate on Redrock&#039;s website.

Thanks,
Jeremy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin -</p>
<p>In the picture of the full rig mounted on sticks, where did you get the battery plate that allows the AB battery to mount directly to the Redrock microbalance plate?  I haven&#8217;t found such a plate on Redrock&#8217;s website.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Jeremy</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 20:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kevin -

Are those angled mini-HDMI cables I spy in the pictures? If so, who&#039;s your supplier?

Thanks
ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kevin -</p>
<p>Are those angled mini-HDMI cables I spy in the pictures? If so, who&#8217;s your supplier?</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
ian</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 13:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can Shane or Kevin please tell me what handle that is on the cinema style studio set up. It looks like it can take alot of weight...i need something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can Shane or Kevin please tell me what handle that is on the cinema style studio set up. It looks like it can take alot of weight&#8230;i need something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: pierre</title>
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		<dc:creator>pierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 19:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking forward to that, that seems to be the baseplate i&#039;ve dreamed of!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to that, that seems to be the baseplate i&#8217;ve dreamed of!</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/05/chaos-in-harmony-by-kevin-anderson-rental-manager-at-hurlbut-visuals/comment-page-1/#comment-4165</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 14:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pierre, that is our custom Hurlbut Visuals baseplate which will soon be available for sale.  Big announcement at Cine Gear that will change the DSLR platform from Hurlbut Visuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pierre, that is our custom Hurlbut Visuals baseplate which will soon be available for sale.  Big announcement at Cine Gear that will change the DSLR platform from Hurlbut Visuals.</p>
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		<title>By: pierre</title>
		<link>http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/05/chaos-in-harmony-by-kevin-anderson-rental-manager-at-hurlbut-visuals/comment-page-1/#comment-4164</link>
		<dc:creator>pierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 06:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kevin,
Thanks for the post, really useful. What is that piece of gear that you use on all your rigs right bellow the really right stuff clamp, and that has hole for rodes? Seems ace.. but I can&#039;t identify the brand.
Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kevin,<br />
Thanks for the post, really useful. What is that piece of gear that you use on all your rigs right bellow the really right stuff clamp, and that has hole for rodes? Seems ace.. but I can&#8217;t identify the brand.<br />
Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: John Novotny</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Novotny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 07:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great piece Kevin. A friend forwarded me a recent article in the FD Times covering the Cooke NAB dinner and speeches, an interesting quote from Danys Bruyere:

&quot;Today, that’s all shifted. Now, we can provide a 2,000 euro EOS with 100,000 euros worth of lenses, and 60,000 euros worth of monitoring. So that’s where our business is today. And that, for us, is the realization that cameras today are disposable. What stays is the glass. &quot;

http://www.fdtimes.com/articles/cooke/NAB2011_CookeEvening.html

On a side note are you guys giving any consideration to any of Sony&#039;s new offerings? F3, Nex FS 100.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece Kevin. A friend forwarded me a recent article in the FD Times covering the Cooke NAB dinner and speeches, an interesting quote from Danys Bruyere:</p>
<p>&#8220;Today, that’s all shifted. Now, we can provide a 2,000 euro EOS with 100,000 euros worth of lenses, and 60,000 euros worth of monitoring. So that’s where our business is today. And that, for us, is the realization that cameras today are disposable. What stays is the glass. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fdtimes.com/articles/cooke/NAB2011_CookeEvening.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fdtimes.com/articles/cooke/NAB2011_CookeEvening.html</a></p>
<p>On a side note are you guys giving any consideration to any of Sony&#8217;s new offerings? F3, Nex FS 100.</p>
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		<title>By: David S</title>
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		<dc:creator>David S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 12:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin:
Interested if you do a custom molding for the Pelican cases or pick&amp;pluck?  Would love to see a shot of one of the pelican cases laid out with the gear.  We are reworking our cases here and would love some inspiration. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin:<br />
Interested if you do a custom molding for the Pelican cases or pick&amp;pluck?  Would love to see a shot of one of the pelican cases laid out with the gear.  We are reworking our cases here and would love some inspiration. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Siddhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siddhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 21:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kevin,

I&#039;m just a little surprised that you&#039;ve been able to get the 28mm and the 21-35mm Leica 3.5-4.0 to work on your bodies because on the PebblePlace database it says that these lenses may or may not work on the 5D and are &quot;iffy&quot;.

I know about Leitax I just received a Nikon to Canon mount from them today!  ;-)

Keep up the great work.

Siddhu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kevin,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just a little surprised that you&#8217;ve been able to get the 28mm and the 21-35mm Leica 3.5-4.0 to work on your bodies because on the PebblePlace database it says that these lenses may or may not work on the 5D and are &#8220;iffy&#8221;.</p>
<p>I know about Leitax I just received a Nikon to Canon mount from them today!  ;-)</p>
<p>Keep up the great work.</p>
<p>Siddhu</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 17:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Siddhu, thanks for being a regular visitor to our site! To mount the Leica lenses to our Canon bodies we use Leitax mounts. Once you get that baby screwed on you&#039;re ready to roll. Zooms and primes use different mounts (6 screw holes (primes) vs. 10 screw holes (zooms)). Here&#039;s the site for Leitax. http://www.leitax.com/. Feel free to email me at kevin@hurlbutvisuals.com for any more questions to help get you set up. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Siddhu, thanks for being a regular visitor to our site! To mount the Leica lenses to our Canon bodies we use Leitax mounts. Once you get that baby screwed on you&#8217;re ready to roll. Zooms and primes use different mounts (6 screw holes (primes) vs. 10 screw holes (zooms)). Here&#8217;s the site for Leitax. <a href="http://www.leitax.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.leitax.com/</a>. Feel free to email me at <a href="mailto:kevin@hurlbutvisuals.com">kevin@hurlbutvisuals.com</a> for any more questions to help get you set up. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Siddhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siddhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 16:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kevin,

I&#039;m a regular visitor to HurlbutVisuals.com and I&#039;ve been meaning to ask a question on your use of Leica R lenses.

Are you able to mount the 19mm Leica 2.8, 28mm Leica 2.8 and the 21-35mm Leica 3.5-4.0 on the 5D Mark II?

Did you have any custom mods done or just try different bodies until you found one(s) that work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kevin,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a regular visitor to HurlbutVisuals.com and I&#8217;ve been meaning to ask a question on your use of Leica R lenses.</p>
<p>Are you able to mount the 19mm Leica 2.8, 28mm Leica 2.8 and the 21-35mm Leica 3.5-4.0 on the 5D Mark II?</p>
<p>Did you have any custom mods done or just try different bodies until you found one(s) that work?</p>
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		<title>By: Lizard King</title>
		<link>http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/05/chaos-in-harmony-by-kevin-anderson-rental-manager-at-hurlbut-visuals/comment-page-1/#comment-4158</link>
		<dc:creator>Lizard King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 21:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Kevin, thanks for the info.

I am curious though, what is the best way to connect an n-line to a rotary girder?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Kevin, thanks for the info.</p>
<p>I am curious though, what is the best way to connect an n-line to a rotary girder?</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Rojas</title>
		<link>http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/05/chaos-in-harmony-by-kevin-anderson-rental-manager-at-hurlbut-visuals/comment-page-1/#comment-4157</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Rojas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 16:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kevin thanks for sharing the insight in your work.

I had the opportunity to play with part of that gear at La Riviera Maya and I can tell you guys that it&#039;s a very solid system that has been design to let you concentrate in doing your work and achieve your vision. By system I&#039;m talking about all the stuff HV had put together to turn this $2600 camera body into a Filmmaking camera.

At La Riviera we put it on a tripod, on a JS fisher dolly, we used it hand held, flew it over the pool on a technocrane at 50 feet, we used it underwater, you name it... The point is, we always knew that we had have a system that was supporting us.. Each piece is there for some important purpose.

JR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kevin thanks for sharing the insight in your work.</p>
<p>I had the opportunity to play with part of that gear at La Riviera Maya and I can tell you guys that it&#8217;s a very solid system that has been design to let you concentrate in doing your work and achieve your vision. By system I&#8217;m talking about all the stuff HV had put together to turn this $2600 camera body into a Filmmaking camera.</p>
<p>At La Riviera we put it on a tripod, on a JS fisher dolly, we used it hand held, flew it over the pool on a technocrane at 50 feet, we used it underwater, you name it&#8230; The point is, we always knew that we had have a system that was supporting us.. Each piece is there for some important purpose.</p>
<p>JR.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Huberfeld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Huberfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 03:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey thanks Kevin you really are the best and i think ill go with the Stubling but is it hard  to hold for long periods of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey thanks Kevin you really are the best and i think ill go with the Stubling but is it hard  to hold for long periods of time.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 18:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brendan, let me know your dates and I&#039;ll see what we can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brendan, let me know your dates and I&#8217;ll see what we can do.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 18:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey. I talked with you for a little while about borriwing one of these rigs for a short film i am working on, but for some reason all the communication stopped after I gave him my list. Could someone help please. Thanks guys</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey. I talked with you for a little while about borriwing one of these rigs for a short film i am working on, but for some reason all the communication stopped after I gave him my list. Could someone help please. Thanks guys</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 18:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alex, it sounds like the Captain Stubling rig would work out for you well. You can pull your own focus and get some cool handheld shots. I love the mancam and have had some great times with it - that might work out for you too...just a slightly different configuration. However, if you&#039;re looking for a shoulder mounted handheld rig I would suggest anything with solid counter weights. That&#039;s one thing I see all too often are rigs that are ridiculously front heavy. The rig will be heavier but if it teeters on your shoulder without holding it you&#039;re set!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alex, it sounds like the Captain Stubling rig would work out for you well. You can pull your own focus and get some cool handheld shots. I love the mancam and have had some great times with it &#8211; that might work out for you too&#8230;just a slightly different configuration. However, if you&#8217;re looking for a shoulder mounted handheld rig I would suggest anything with solid counter weights. That&#8217;s one thing I see all too often are rigs that are ridiculously front heavy. The rig will be heavier but if it teeters on your shoulder without holding it you&#8217;re set!</p>
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		<title>By: What Does a Standard Kit Look Like If You Rent From Hurlbut Visuals : PhotoTimes</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Does a Standard Kit Look Like If You Rent From Hurlbut Visuals : PhotoTimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 02:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hurlbut&#8217;s Rental Manager, talks about some of the Chaos his gear goes through and what their &#8220;Movie Maker&#8221; HDSLR kit loos like, including a 5D, a 7D, a full set of Leica glass, mattebox, tripod, batteries, EVF&#8230; this list [...]</description>
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