Comments on: Marines Contest Winners Andrea Cecchini and Martin Guitar – Where’s the 5D II, “For Us All” http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/02/marines-contest-winners-andrea-cecchini-and-martin-guitar-where%e2%80%99s-the-5d-ii-%e2%80%9cfor-us-all%e2%80%9d/ Create | Innovate | Educate Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:53:57 +0200 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Shane http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/02/marines-contest-winners-andrea-cecchini-and-martin-guitar-where%e2%80%99s-the-5d-ii-%e2%80%9cfor-us-all%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-3349 Shane Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:49:14 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=3400#comment-3349 chphotovideo, hey that is why I wanted to do this contest so that people could train there eye. I am in Montreal shooting film and 5D, 85% film and 15% 5D. the hybrid is what it is all about. chphotovideo, hey that is why I wanted to do this contest so that people could train there eye. I am in Montreal shooting film and 5D, 85% film and 15% 5D. the hybrid is what it is all about.

]]> By: chphotovideo http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/02/marines-contest-winners-andrea-cecchini-and-martin-guitar-where%e2%80%99s-the-5d-ii-%e2%80%9cfor-us-all%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-3348 chphotovideo Tue, 08 Mar 2011 04:27:47 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=3400#comment-3348 yup. I was a super close... 152nd place with a whopping 8 correct. Thanks for explaining your issues and why you used film. I was under the same impression, thinking film was rarely used but it was actually the main source for filming. Again, excellent video and congrats to the winners.. you guys really know what to look for yup. I was a super close… 152nd place with a whopping 8 correct. Thanks for explaining your issues and why you used film. I was under the same impression, thinking film was rarely used but it was actually the main source for filming. Again, excellent video and congrats to the winners.. you guys really know what to look for

]]> By: Martin Guitar http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/02/marines-contest-winners-andrea-cecchini-and-martin-guitar-where%e2%80%99s-the-5d-ii-%e2%80%9cfor-us-all%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-3347 Martin Guitar Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:22:11 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=3400#comment-3347 Like Shane said doing it in post is the only way. A little trick is also to take some stills when shooting your scenes to give you more options when fixing shots in post. For example on my last project there was really bad moire on one side of an actor shirt so i grabbed a still from that scene, cut a little piece of the shirt in Photoshop and tracked it on top. Luckily for me the actor was not moving. No one will ever know and the shot was saved. For wide establishing shots, streets and cities it's pretty important because of the bad aliasing on telephone poles cables and other sharp patterns. I made a tutorial explaining this technique, see it here: http://vimeo.com/20003389 While i'm at it I also made another tutorial to help people converting their 8-bit footage to totally color correctable 10-Bit 4:2:2. It really works well and you can push your footage a lot harder in CC. http://vimeo.com/19908622 Shane thank you so much for the filters(i won the 2d place of this contest) the footage i get from them is incredible. I retired my older non IR NDs from my fleet :) Like Shane said doing it in post is the only way.

A little trick is also to take some stills when shooting your scenes to give you more options when fixing shots in post. For example on my last project there was really bad moire on one side of an actor shirt so i grabbed a still from that scene, cut a little piece of the shirt in Photoshop and tracked it on top. Luckily for me the actor was not moving. No one will ever know and the shot was saved.

For wide establishing shots, streets and cities it’s pretty important because of the bad aliasing on telephone poles cables and other sharp patterns. I made a tutorial explaining this technique, see it here:

http://vimeo.com/20003389

While i’m at it I also made another tutorial to help people converting their 8-bit footage to totally color correctable 10-Bit 4:2:2. It really works well and you can push your footage a lot harder in CC.

http://vimeo.com/19908622

Shane thank you so much for the filters(i won the 2d place of this contest) the footage i get from them is incredible. I retired my older non IR NDs from my fleet :)

]]> By: Sarah S http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/02/marines-contest-winners-andrea-cecchini-and-martin-guitar-where%e2%80%99s-the-5d-ii-%e2%80%9cfor-us-all%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-3346 Sarah S Wed, 16 Feb 2011 01:14:58 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=3400#comment-3346 hello!, First time poster and glad to be a part of the discussion! hello!, First time poster and glad to be a part of the discussion!

]]> By: Shane http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/02/marines-contest-winners-andrea-cecchini-and-martin-guitar-where%e2%80%99s-the-5d-ii-%e2%80%9cfor-us-all%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-3345 Shane Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:53:48 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=3400#comment-3345 Martin Beek, the Anit-Moire filters do not work at all, they just soften the image. What is your picture style? I have painted moire out in after effects on Act of Valor, it is the only solution to do it in post. Leica glass will help because of its flatter contrast range and not as sharp, more cream. If you have any sharpening on with your picture style you are increasing the problem. Neutral, -3 contrast, -1 saturation. I hope this helps Martin Beek, the Anit-Moire filters do not work at all, they just soften the image. What is your picture style? I have painted moire out in after effects on Act of Valor, it is the only solution to do it in post. Leica glass will help because of its flatter contrast range and not as sharp, more cream. If you have any sharpening on with your picture style you are increasing the problem. Neutral, -3 contrast, -1 saturation. I hope this helps

]]> By: Martin Beek http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/02/marines-contest-winners-andrea-cecchini-and-martin-guitar-where%e2%80%99s-the-5d-ii-%e2%80%9cfor-us-all%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-3344 Martin Beek Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:08:22 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=3400#comment-3344 Shane. I'm a camerman from Holland that has spent his entire savings on the 5D plus lenses and gear to make a full length movie this year as DP. The DSLR approach was my idea and now the producer/director is not satisfied with any of the testfootage shot on location because of moire in the hair of actors. I have found no solution, and this is going to cost me more money or i'll lose the assignment altogether. Tried canon L-series and Zeiss primes. I'm a desperate man... :-( I've been advised to spent a few hundred more on special soft filters AND to make a switch to the Panasonic GH2. Any advise is much welcomed!! Thanks. Martin Beek, Marvels Film. Shane. I’m a camerman from Holland that has spent his entire savings on the 5D plus lenses and gear to make a full length movie this year as DP. The DSLR approach was my idea and now the producer/director is not satisfied with any of the testfootage shot on location because of moire in the hair of actors. I have found no solution, and this is going to cost me more money or i’ll lose the assignment altogether. Tried canon L-series and Zeiss primes. I’m a desperate man… :-(
I’ve been advised to spent a few hundred more on special soft filters AND to make a switch to the Panasonic GH2.
Any advise is much welcomed!!

Thanks.
Martin Beek, Marvels Film.

]]> By: Charles http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/02/marines-contest-winners-andrea-cecchini-and-martin-guitar-where%e2%80%99s-the-5d-ii-%e2%80%9cfor-us-all%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-3343 Charles Tue, 08 Feb 2011 07:48:20 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=3400#comment-3343 Hmm, moiré is still a serious problem when shooting in the city (which I often do). Perhaps Canon can solve this problem before I buy the camera... Hmm, moiré is still a serious problem when shooting in the city (which I often do). Perhaps Canon can solve this problem before I buy the camera…

]]> By: Matt Short http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/02/marines-contest-winners-andrea-cecchini-and-martin-guitar-where%e2%80%99s-the-5d-ii-%e2%80%9cfor-us-all%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-3342 Matt Short Sun, 06 Feb 2011 21:19:05 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=3400#comment-3342 Ah moire', I didn't think of that one. Nice not to have to compromise a shot due to technical limitations. I need to rethink incorporating film back into my arsenal. Thanks for the insight. Ah moire’, I didn’t think of that one. Nice not to have to compromise a shot due to technical limitations. I need to rethink incorporating film back into my arsenal. Thanks for the insight.

]]> By: Shane http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/02/marines-contest-winners-andrea-cecchini-and-martin-guitar-where%e2%80%99s-the-5d-ii-%e2%80%9cfor-us-all%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-3341 Shane Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:35:25 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=3400#comment-3341 Matt Short, yes the SLR's are an amazing tool, but the moire' issue killed us on this one. When I tech scouted the morning colors location in Parris Island the brick was such a tight pattern the whole building had this massive moire' wave across it. Same in Prague, the Marine's hat and shirt moire'ed like crazy and we had to go with this, we could not alter what a Marine wears. This is why I roll out with a Hybrid approach. At the Iwo Jima memorial I went with film on the technocrane because we had to do a quick leap frog to the crane and wanted to have it all ready to go to capture the perfect light. Matt Short, yes the SLR’s are an amazing tool, but the moire’ issue killed us on this one. When I tech scouted the morning colors location in Parris Island the brick was such a tight pattern the whole building had this massive moire’ wave across it. Same in Prague, the Marine’s hat and shirt moire’ed like crazy and we had to go with this, we could not alter what a Marine wears. This is why I roll out with a Hybrid approach. At the Iwo Jima memorial I went with film on the technocrane because we had to do a quick leap frog to the crane and wanted to have it all ready to go to capture the perfect light.

]]> By: Matt Short http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/02/marines-contest-winners-andrea-cecchini-and-martin-guitar-where%e2%80%99s-the-5d-ii-%e2%80%9cfor-us-all%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-3340 Matt Short Sun, 06 Feb 2011 15:30:45 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=3400#comment-3340 Shane, At first I thought you were throwing us a curve ball and nothing was shot using film. So that got me wondering - since the DSLRs are so versatile and can achieve this quality of imagery, why would you go through the hassle and expense of shooting film? Shane,
At first I thought you were throwing us a curve ball and nothing was shot using film. So that got me wondering – since the DSLRs are so versatile and can achieve this quality of imagery, why would you go through the hassle and expense of shooting film?

]]> By: Shane http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/02/marines-contest-winners-andrea-cecchini-and-martin-guitar-where%e2%80%99s-the-5d-ii-%e2%80%9cfor-us-all%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-3339 Shane Sat, 05 Feb 2011 21:51:16 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=3400#comment-3339 johnluisaiden, thank you so much. I thought this would help people remember. johnluisaiden, thank you so much. I thought this would help people remember.

]]> By: andreacecchini http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/02/marines-contest-winners-andrea-cecchini-and-martin-guitar-where%e2%80%99s-the-5d-ii-%e2%80%9cfor-us-all%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-3338 andreacecchini Sat, 05 Feb 2011 11:27:13 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=3400#comment-3338 thank you guy :) thank you guy :)

]]> By: Charles http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/02/marines-contest-winners-andrea-cecchini-and-martin-guitar-where%e2%80%99s-the-5d-ii-%e2%80%9cfor-us-all%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-3337 Charles Sat, 05 Feb 2011 11:22:39 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=3400#comment-3337 More film shots than we expected. 9th shot on 5D is a surprise and really shows what the Canon can, I think. But of course it's every time the light that makes the final image (not the camera). More film shots than we expected.
9th shot on 5D is a surprise and really shows what the Canon can, I think.
But of course it’s every time the light that makes the final image (not the camera).

]]> By: johnluisaiden http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/02/marines-contest-winners-andrea-cecchini-and-martin-guitar-where%e2%80%99s-the-5d-ii-%e2%80%9cfor-us-all%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-3336 johnluisaiden Fri, 04 Feb 2011 13:53:47 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=3400#comment-3336 photos are excellent posting.. its really nice.. photos are excellent posting..
its really nice..

]]> By: Matt Short http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/02/marines-contest-winners-andrea-cecchini-and-martin-guitar-where%e2%80%99s-the-5d-ii-%e2%80%9cfor-us-all%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-3335 Matt Short Fri, 04 Feb 2011 12:38:16 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=3400#comment-3335 Wow! I was way off! Congrats to the winners! Wow! I was way off! Congrats to the winners!

]]> By: Balsam http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/02/marines-contest-winners-andrea-cecchini-and-martin-guitar-where%e2%80%99s-the-5d-ii-%e2%80%9cfor-us-all%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-3334 Balsam Fri, 04 Feb 2011 12:03:11 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=3400#comment-3334 wow, Rimini, sounds like we have a new Fellini here... wow, Rimini, sounds like we have a new Fellini here…

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