Comments on: Lighting Series Number 3: The Natural Look of Crazy/Beautiful http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/ Create | Innovate | Educate Thu, 23 May 2013 20:17:53 +0200 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Shane http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3094 Shane Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:35:06 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3094 Nick Savides, Nice to have you on the blog, you are very welcome and thank you so much for your support. We have much in store for all of our co-collaborators this year. 2011 will be fantastic!!! Nick Savides, Nice to have you on the blog, you are very welcome and thank you so much for your support. We have much in store for all of our co-collaborators this year. 2011 will be fantastic!!!

]]> By: Nick Savides http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3093 Nick Savides Thu, 30 Dec 2010 09:02:59 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3093 Hi Shane, That was great. Thank you. I found your blog through nofilmschool.com. As it happens, I work for Canon providing support for our EOS equipment and video equipment. I was familiar with you through the Canon Digital Learning Center, but I missed your blog until now. It is very helpful to have the video clip of the scene right next to your lighting plots. Decent of the studio/filmmakers to let you post it. Anyway, I will be sure to recommend your site to any of our aspiring cinematographers who want to learn more about shooting video on HD DSLRs. (To clarify, that would be just a personal recommendation from me, which I must distinguish from an official endorsement by Canon. Still you are one of our Explorers of Light, and we definitely mention your collaborations with us whenever relevant.) Cheers, Nick Hi Shane,

That was great. Thank you.

I found your blog through nofilmschool.com. As it happens, I work for Canon providing support for our EOS equipment and video equipment. I was familiar with you through the Canon Digital Learning Center, but I missed your blog until now.

It is very helpful to have the video clip of the scene right next to your lighting plots. Decent of the studio/filmmakers to let you post it.

Anyway, I will be sure to recommend your site to any of our aspiring cinematographers who want to learn more about shooting video on HD DSLRs. (To clarify, that would be just a personal recommendation from me, which I must distinguish from an official endorsement by Canon. Still you are one of our Explorers of Light, and we definitely mention your collaborations with us whenever relevant.)

Cheers,
Nick

]]> By: Charles http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3092 Charles Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:12:08 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3092 Great. Thanks. Next year we buy the 5D. Until then we read and study everything you write here. Light in Holland is different from anywhere else (they say), and is not the easiest light! ! Great. Thanks. Next year we buy the 5D. Until then we read and study everything you write here. Light in Holland is different from anywhere else (they say), and is not the easiest light!
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]]> By: Shane http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3091 Shane Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:11:23 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3091 Sam Kim, Hi Sam, great to see you on the blog. I feel the same way, you have to hold back so it means something. We are so fascinated with the ECU. Too much watching the video monitor at video village and not realizing that the image that you are looking at will be on a 60' screen. You are very welcome. Sam Kim, Hi Sam, great to see you on the blog. I feel the same way, you have to hold back so it means something. We are so fascinated with the ECU. Too much watching the video monitor at video village and not realizing that the image that you are looking at will be on a 60′ screen. You are very welcome.

]]> By: Shane http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3090 Shane Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:08:56 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3090 John Behrens, Thank you so much for these wonderful kind words and support. I had so much fun on Mr. 3000 and stay tuned. John Behrens, Thank you so much for these wonderful kind words and support. I had so much fun on Mr. 3000 and stay tuned.

]]> By: Sam Kim http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3089 Sam Kim Wed, 15 Dec 2010 07:46:47 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3089 your CU comment is interesting. especially with so much good tv and that influencing people's shooting i feel as if some films are using the CU way too much. a film that i really admire, because it really chooses WHEN to use the CU, is That Evening Sun. It's that kind of maturity that amazes me. Thanks for sharing, Shane. your CU comment is interesting. especially with so much good tv and that influencing people’s shooting i feel as if some films are using the CU way too much. a film that i really admire, because it really chooses WHEN to use the CU, is That Evening Sun. It’s that kind of maturity that amazes me.

Thanks for sharing, Shane.

]]> By: John Behrens http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3088 John Behrens Tue, 14 Dec 2010 19:31:49 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3088 Shane, Thanks so much for this lighting series. This is the kind of information I'm always thirsting for. I don't want to gush or anything, but what you do on this blog is actually making me better at lighting and shooting... and that honestly blows my mind that you're offering this information just out of pure passion for what you do. It's not only very educational, but hugely inspiring. By the way, my brother was an extra in Mr. 3000 and I remember him telling me, 'This was shot by the guy who did Drumline, and the cinematography in that movie was amazing!' Can't wait for the next post. Shane,
Thanks so much for this lighting series. This is the kind of information I’m always thirsting for. I don’t want to gush or anything, but what you do on this blog is actually making me better at lighting and shooting… and that honestly blows my mind that you’re offering this information just out of pure passion for what you do. It’s not only very educational, but hugely inspiring.
By the way, my brother was an extra in Mr. 3000 and I remember him telling me, ‘This was shot by the guy who did Drumline, and the cinematography in that movie was amazing!’ Can’t wait for the next post.

]]> By: Shane http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3087 Shane Mon, 13 Dec 2010 16:08:16 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3087 martijn, I find that you do your best to match, but remember it is the story and the performance. Those are your first concerns. Tell that in a way that captivates and moves an audience then finesse the light to match the best you can. Your eyes are on Kirsten, not the BG. Thanks, I think that wide says it all at the end. martijn, I find that you do your best to match, but remember it is the story and the performance. Those are your first concerns. Tell that in a way that captivates and moves an audience then finesse the light to match the best you can. Your eyes are on Kirsten, not the BG. Thanks, I think that wide says it all at the end.

]]> By: Shane http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3086 Shane Mon, 13 Dec 2010 16:05:55 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3086 Jerry Rojas, thank you so much my friend. The cyan look was all photo chemical. We did not want to freak Disney out with this on a daily basis, so we went for this once the movie was completed. Take a look at the sky, it is not a deep saturated sky, it has a lot of cyan, but it was looking back at the mountains, inland. It felt right so we went for it. Jerry Rojas, thank you so much my friend. The cyan look was all photo chemical. We did not want to freak Disney out with this on a daily basis, so we went for this once the movie was completed. Take a look at the sky, it is not a deep saturated sky, it has a lot of cyan, but it was looking back at the mountains, inland. It felt right so we went for it.

]]> By: Shane http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3085 Shane Mon, 13 Dec 2010 16:02:51 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3085 Tim, I have NOT been blown away with Sun Seekers abilities. If you are having a great experience with them, then have at it. It boned me twice in Montana and then in Kiev, Ukraine. After that I said "SEE YA!!" I love Helios, I feel it is the most accurate. What I am talking about is that you can be influenced by iron, rocks, other metals that are in the ground and SunPath and Helios have a better way of calculating this with your destination. Finding magnetic north and keeping the database updated. Tim, I have NOT been blown away with Sun Seekers abilities. If you are having a great experience with them, then have at it. It boned me twice in Montana and then in Kiev, Ukraine. After that I said “SEE YA!!” I love Helios, I feel it is the most accurate. What I am talking about is that you can be influenced by iron, rocks, other metals that are in the ground and SunPath and Helios have a better way of calculating this with your destination. Finding magnetic north and keeping the database updated.

]]> By: martijn http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3084 martijn Mon, 13 Dec 2010 11:54:53 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3084 Hello Shane, I really love these posts! And learn a lot from them. One thing I always struggle with is changing lightning conditions. Sun, no sun, clouds, no clouds etc. Just when I'm ready to take a shot the light changes. I noticed (only on second viewing and because I was looking for it...) that the first two shots with Kirsten en Jay the light in the background changes. Do you see that as a problem or not? The audience wouldn't notice I think, because we are looking at the actors and not the background. But when I have these kind of light-changes in the editroom I always think that these won't match, and struggle with it to make it work. I love the decision to don't go for a CU of the hands. Great choice, works really good. Martijn. Hello Shane, I really love these posts! And learn a lot from them.

One thing I always struggle with is changing lightning conditions. Sun, no sun, clouds, no clouds etc. Just when I’m ready to take a shot the light changes. I noticed (only on second viewing and because I was looking for it…) that the first two shots with Kirsten en Jay the light in the background changes. Do you see that as a problem or not?
The audience wouldn’t notice I think, because we are looking at the actors and not the background. But when I have these kind of light-changes in the editroom I always think that these won’t match, and struggle with it to make it work.

I love the decision to don’t go for a CU of the hands. Great choice, works really good.

Martijn.

]]> By: Jerry Rojas http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3083 Jerry Rojas Mon, 13 Dec 2010 03:58:07 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3083 Hi Shane!, awesome post, thanks for taking the time to write and share. I have a few questions if you allow me.. The cyanish look was completly achived photochemically or you were using some kind of lens filter too? I understand the white skies were something you were looking for, so why you decided to left the blue sky in the football practice wide shot? Best! JR Hi Shane!, awesome post, thanks for taking the time to write and share.
I have a few questions if you allow me..

The cyanish look was completly achived photochemically or you were using some kind of lens filter too?

I understand the white skies were something you were looking for, so why you decided to left the blue sky in the football practice wide shot?

Best!

JR

]]> By: Tim http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3082 Tim Mon, 13 Dec 2010 01:07:57 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3082 Shane - this post is like an American Cinematographer article on steroids, love it. thanks for going in depth. BTW, can you further explain the "It is easily influenced by the earth’s gravitational pull when it should not be" comment concerning the Sun Seeker app? what do you mean by gravitational pull--does it not use the internal compass correctly? The DP on a shoot I assisted a month ago used it during a sunrise shoot and found the augmented reality camera overlay function surprisingly accurate. Shane – this post is like an American Cinematographer article on steroids, love it. thanks for going in depth. BTW, can you further explain the “It is easily influenced by the earth’s gravitational pull when it should not be” comment concerning the Sun Seeker app? what do you mean by gravitational pull–does it not use the internal compass correctly? The DP on a shoot I assisted a month ago used it during a sunrise shoot and found the augmented reality camera overlay function surprisingly accurate.

]]> By: Shane http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3081 Shane Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:29:39 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3081 Alex, absolutely. I would have to use very powerful lights to give me my balance outside and inside the tunnel. I would be able to achieve the cool cyan time by shooting at 4700 deg Kelvin in the middle of the day. Alex, absolutely. I would have to use very powerful lights to give me my balance outside and inside the tunnel. I would be able to achieve the cool cyan time by shooting at 4700 deg Kelvin in the middle of the day.

]]> By: Alex http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3080 Alex Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:27:08 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3080 If you would have to shoot the very same scene today but on HDSLR, would you light it differently? If so, what would you do to achieve that type of a look or at least close to it? Would it be the same lighting plot for 5D as for a film? Thanks again! If you would have to shoot the very same scene today but on HDSLR, would you light it differently? If so, what would you do to achieve that type of a look or at least close to it? Would it be the same lighting plot for 5D as for a film?
Thanks again!

]]> By: Alex http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3079 Alex Sun, 12 Dec 2010 18:08:38 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3079 Yummy post! Great stuff! Looking forward for more! Thanks a ton! Yummy post! Great stuff! Looking forward for more! Thanks a ton!

]]> By: Shane http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3078 Shane Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:37:56 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3078 Dave Dugdale, thank you so much for your support. Dave Dugdale, thank you so much for your support.

]]> By: Shane http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3077 Shane Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:37:28 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3077 mel haynes, You are very welcome and thank you for those kind words. Yes. I have a plan a foot the minute we decide on the location. Gear is then placed on my main lighting pkg. that would light this scene. Then on the day, if the actors turn a specific way or move in a different direction, then I react to it. I try to stay very versatile as a cinematographer, light on my feet, because it is truly an art of catching that smile, or a twist of a head at the right time, right place. Those serendipity moments, like Kirsten reaching for his hand. The director and I wanted this to happen, that was are whole genesis for the scene, but we never mentioned to them. We sat back on the wide and hoped they would go there, and they did. mel haynes, You are very welcome and thank you for those kind words. Yes. I have a plan a foot the minute we decide on the location. Gear is then placed on my main lighting pkg. that would light this scene. Then on the day, if the actors turn a specific way or move in a different direction, then I react to it. I try to stay very versatile as a cinematographer, light on my feet, because it is truly an art of catching that smile, or a twist of a head at the right time, right place. Those serendipity moments, like Kirsten reaching for his hand. The director and I wanted this to happen, that was are whole genesis for the scene, but we never mentioned to them. We sat back on the wide and hoped they would go there, and they did.

]]> By: Shane http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3076 Shane Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:30:27 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3076 Michael Locke, I thank you so much for seeing this. This film truly changed the way my mind worked as a cinematographer. Keep it small as s possible and give the actors the ability to roam. I like to react to the rehearsal and blocking. Some of the time we throw out everything we planned and react to the actors emotion and the mood that they are projecting. You have to be light on your feet to take advantage of these serendipity moments. Michael Locke, I thank you so much for seeing this. This film truly changed the way my mind worked as a cinematographer. Keep it small as s possible and give the actors the ability to roam. I like to react to the rehearsal and blocking. Some of the time we throw out everything we planned and react to the actors emotion and the mood that they are projecting. You have to be light on your feet to take advantage of these serendipity moments.

]]> By: Shane http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/12/lighting-series-number-3-the-natural-look-of-crazybeautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-3075 Shane Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:26:20 +0000 http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/?p=2503#comment-3075 Joseph J, You are so welcome, and thank you for your support. Joseph J, You are so welcome, and thank you for your support.

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