Comments on: Color Grading the 5D MKII for Case Combines

By: Miguel Estevao

Miguel Estevao — Tue, 02 Apr 2013 23:01:32 +0000

Hi Shane,

can you give me a light? I’m buynig some lenses to use in my small projects with my 5D. I have a set of Carl Zeiss Contax/Yashica AE and Zeiss Zebra M42/P6. I Have a Jupiter 9 wich I really would like to use in some projects cause his look is really nice, but I’m having some problems finding more lenses to complete the kit since theres only 85, 135 and 200mm. Since you are so experienced in HDSLRs shooting I would like to know if you can me advise me with some other russian brands with that “Jupiter” look. Hope dont be a stupid question. Best regard. Thank you

By: FLAIN

FLAIN — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:01:36 +0000

Some people say Premiere pro cs5 doesn’t give you 10-bit color space footage..Footage has to be converted cineform or prores..Is that true?
Thank you

By: Baron

Baron — Tue, 31 May 2011 07:14:21 +0000

Hi Shane, I love your breakdown on your Case Combine TVC.

I teach PremierePro in college but when I’m editing corporate films, I use Edius.

With regards to the power windows, I find using GrassValley’s Edius extremely helpful. Its got a FreeShape Mask that let’s you create any shape mask like the bezier curves in AE. I’ve been editing Hdslr footage raw with Edius without any transcoding.

The footage plays back so smoothly on even slower computers. Just wondering about this since most folks prefer FCP or PremierePro… What are your thoughts? Are there any issues with Edius that I didn’t know about?

By: Dennis

Dennis — Sun, 24 Apr 2011 06:58:14 +0000

It’s so inspiring to see a professional who is willing to take time out to do a write up like this to teach others. Thank you so much, Shane. Your efforts are deeply appreciated.

By: Shane

Shane — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 22:40:26 +0000

Kahl, yes there is a nice little color corrector in CS5.

By: Kahl

Kahl — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:09:00 +0000

Oh I see, it’s essentially similar to a few processes in Photoshop. Very nice.
I used Premiere CS5. Would the same workflow be available there?

By: Shane

Shane — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 05:22:54 +0000

Kahleem, Power windows are sphere shapes that you can mold into any shape let’s say I put a circle around the monitor in the combine, we then change the circle to a square around the monitor and then we were able to pull more information out of the blacks just in that window as well as color,and not effect the rest of the image. This tool I find is absolutely essential for this 5D platform.

By: Kahleem

Kahleem — Tue, 02 Nov 2010 20:54:20 +0000

Hey Shane, loved this work and the explanation behind it.
In the written commentary, you mentioned “power window” several times.
What exactly is that?

Thanks :-)
-KahL

By: Shane

Shane — Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:50:53 +0000

Alex Disenhof, CS5 gives you a 10 BIT converted color space that you have to transcode if you are going to put it into a Davinci:Resolve or a Luster, or a Pablo, unless you have a pipeline that we had on the Bootcamp where we send it in via HDSDI and there were not any files that needed to be transcoded. Putting any film LUT on this footage is the biggest disservice you can do to the 5D. You have to work off of the CS5 file that goes in natively to Premiere Pro and then work from this base. I take everything that I have shot, getting it as close as possible and then color correct with a high end color corrector. I do not use after affects.

By: Alex Disenhof

Alex Disenhof — Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:24:37 +0000

Hi Shane, thanks for the response. Do you go with the new Adobe CS5 because it means you can avoid transcoding the footage to something like ProRes for Final Cut Pro? Is there an advantage to this besides saving time, when considering a film out? Because you aren’t applying a standard film LUT to this codec, do you do your color correction in After Effects instead after shooting with whatever settings you dialed in in the camera?

Thanks again,
Alex

By: Shane

Shane — Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:46:37 +0000

Alex Disenhof, The codec holds up brilliantly. I have been conforming all my files to Adobe CS5 and then color correcting from there. We have done several film out tests for “Act of Valor” and “The Last 3 MInutes.” They have dropped jaws. Big thing to understand is that you cannot put a standard LUT for film on this codec. It falls apart. You have to go with the CS5 files and work from there.

By: Alex Disenhof

Alex Disenhof — Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:38:02 +0000

Hi Shane, thanks again for the wonderfully informative blog. One thing that I haven’t seen yet (and maybe I just missed it?) is information about shooting the 5D or 7D for a film finish. Have you or anyone you know done this? How does the H264 compression that comes out of the cameras hold up once its been transferred to film? Are there any special steps in post production that you would recommend to achieve the best possible image for a film print? Please help!

And thanks again! You make Emerson College proud!

Alex

By: Shane

Shane — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 04:31:44 +0000

Andrew Wehde, you should contact my Elite Team member David Knudson at gripsideinc@earthlink.net. He can go over all that stuff with you. We definitely needed vibro isolation. So you can talk with him about that. There was someone on the case blog that had made a vibro isolator for the Cessna. Go back to that blog and check it out. For camera gear you will need lenses that you can control the exposure on the big wheel on the back. So it is either Canon or Zeiss ZE. Have a Marshall monitor inside the cockpit so that you can somewhat judge exposure and you will be set. If the Cessna is vibrating like ours was you will have to extract every other frame and then twixtor it to frame blend or the shot will look all out of focus. You are welcome. I hope this helps.

By: Sammy Das

Sammy Das — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:04:50 +0000

quote from 1st post by Roman M France says:

“BTW: I’ve been seeing your NAVY video work in the TV spots this week on ESPN. NAVY has sponsored some stuff for the XGAMES, so they’ve been running quite frequent.”

Yes..I also saw those Navy Seal ads during the XGames and wondered why
they looked so very soft. Wondered if there was a broadcast/tape problem
since the same clips looked tack sharp online here on the website.

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By: Andrew Wehde

Andrew Wehde — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:50:39 +0000

Hey Shane, i noticed you recently mounted a few 5ds to a crop dusters landing gears. I am DPing a job for farmers insurance in the coming weeks and the agency today decided they want ariels. Could you go over the rigging and grip equipment used to mount these cameras securely? Thanks in advance!

-drew

By: Roman M France

Roman M France — Sun, 01 Aug 2010 19:53:44 +0000

Incredibly rich and punchy in that final edit. Marvelous work… as usual. Hope all is well.

BTW: I’ve been seeing your NAVY video work in the TV spots this week on ESPN. NAVY has sponsored some stuff for the XGAMES, so they’ve been running quite frequent. Well you probably know all this, but it was super cool to see it and then go “HEY I KNOW THE GUY WHO MADE THAT!” lol.

RomanM

By: Shane

Shane — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:47:22 +0000

Jay Galvan, CS5 is the way to go. I have been talking to the guys over at Adobe, they are just getting warmed up. I know it is so fast and immediate.

By: Jay Galvan

Jay Galvan — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:25:58 +0000

Hi Shane,

I am now on PP CS5, wow love the workflow. I have been A FCP user for a long time, the flow with the DSLR footage is great.

I just shot this 3 min test, with one 7D, Zeiss ZE 50mm and Zeiss 18MM, all hand held (just the camera) no other gear or even a tripod. Love working with the new gear!!

http://vimeo.com/13770501

By: Yurij

Yurij — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:30:21 +0000

I`m glad that you like it, i used old Jupiter 37A(135,3.5), he gives a very soft image on the sun